tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post1433289117208537990..comments2023-11-03T05:53:57.725-04:00Comments on Route 19 Writers: Why Don't Women Illustrators Win Caldecott Awards?Route19 Writershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00519057436984426924noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-72902649344466219852021-10-09T20:37:13.112-04:002021-10-09T20:37:13.112-04:00One of the best decision i ever made was contactin...One of the best decision i ever made was contacting Dr Otonokpo to help me get my lover back, I was life filled with happiness after i contacted Dr Otonokpo because he didn't just bring my lover back to me he also made our love for each other more unique and superb. If you need to spice your relationship with more love and attention contact Dr Otonokpo on his Email Address otonokpotemple@gmail.com, call/whatsapp him via his contact +2348114129781 and be happy just like i am, thanks Dr Otonokpo for your great work.MARY JAMEShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04747637367946666688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-82118533406415641642021-10-09T20:36:16.186-04:002021-10-09T20:36:16.186-04:00One of the best decision i ever made was contactin...One of the best decision i ever made was contacting Dr Otonokpo to help me get my lover back, I was life filled with happiness after i contacted Dr Otonokpo because he didn't just bring my lover back to me he also made our love for each other more unique and superb. If you need to spice your relationship with more love and attention contact Dr Otonokpo on his Email Address otonokpotemple@gmail.com, call/whatsapp him via his contact +2348114129781 and be happy just like i am, thanks Dr Otonokpo for your great work.MARY JAMEShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04747637367946666688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-81463463026663204752015-10-23T11:15:21.976-04:002015-10-23T11:15:21.976-04:00Great article. It's something I've noticed...Great article. It's something I've noticed for years. And I enjoyed these thought-provoking comments. I agree that men are often a bit more confident in their selling, I also agree that men are able to better focus on their work (while shoulder more and family responsibilities). I've heard lots of theories, and I think it all bears more discussion.<br />teresa funkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15809916525406581041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-27257975491742655272012-02-21T10:24:44.045-05:002012-02-21T10:24:44.045-05:00Hi Cathy June,
Sorry I missed this comment earlier...Hi Cathy June,<br />Sorry I missed this comment earlier - don't know how that happened. At any rate, thanks so much for these insights and links. Interesting reading.<br />Unfortunately, it's not even just women in the arts: women seem to be underrepresented relative to their numbers and accomplishments in fields like science and medicine as well - and of course politics.<br />http://blog.sciencewomen.com/2007/06/women-underrepresented-in-presidents.html<br />http://www.womenetics.com/Gender-Equality/closing-the-gender-gap-in-medicine<br />http://m.laloyolan.com/mobile/news/news_analysis/study-explores-political-gender-gap/article_118ccd58-4262-11e1-a160-001a4bcf6878.htmlCarol Baicker-McKeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07190497340312463771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-56211841121738120272012-01-30T19:58:35.803-05:002012-01-30T19:58:35.803-05:00It seems to be a pervasive issue in the arts, Kitt...It seems to be a pervasive issue in the arts, Kitty - and in academia and the sciencific research community as well. And I suspect in many, many other fields. Some of it may be due to the fact that women are still more likely than men to have the greatest share of family responsibilities, making it harder for them to produce not just the quality of work that garners top awards, but the quantity that gets the individual noticed and supported all along and thus positioned for top opportunities. It will be interesting to see if things change going forward.Carol Baicker-McKeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07190497340312463771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-23996210455665268522012-01-30T19:53:24.542-05:002012-01-30T19:53:24.542-05:00Hi Ruth,
I know what you mean about commenting - I...Hi Ruth,<br />I know what you mean about commenting - I felt a twinge of dread when I wrote this piece. But I'm honestly not laying blame at anyone's feet. I KNOW how hard those awards committees work and how dedicated they are to choosing the best, and I also have never had the sense of conscious gender discrimination among the editors and art directors I've encountered - so I'd hope no one feels unfairly criticized!<br />I agree the goal should not be to bring the men down - I am grateful for the guys in this field and in awe of the talent of these guys at the top. But like you, I feel that the genius of many women has been overlooked or not properly appreciated.<br />And oddly, no - things have NOT been getting better for women illustrators as far as this award goes, but worse! That's the thing that worries me. But I'm hoping you're right that we may see more change in a generation or two.Carol Baicker-McKeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07190497340312463771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-42286423735983036962012-01-30T19:47:38.083-05:002012-01-30T19:47:38.083-05:00Hi Wendy,
I think awards like the Caldecott are im...Hi Wendy,<br />I think awards like the Caldecott are important, although I think the buying public (including libraries) sometimes places too much weight on them; as you point out, there are many, many beautiful books each year and it's clearly subjective which single one is the best. <br />Interesting your comments on the gender of authored-illustrated texts vs illustrated only. I've often wondered whether editors sometimes give male illustrators more encouragement to fully develop their own projects.<br /><br />I love A Sick Day for Amos McGee as well - story and illustrations!<br /><br />Ruth, I also think the Steads are married - see this interview from NPR: http://www.npr.org/2011/08/04/138797874/erin-and-phillip-stead-illustrator-and-author-of-a-sick-day-for-amosCarol Baicker-McKeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07190497340312463771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-58158930045991686312012-01-30T18:48:06.943-05:002012-01-30T18:48:06.943-05:00No - I follow her blog - they are married. http:/...No - I follow her blog - they are married. http://erinstead.com/about/WendyLady@GoodBookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07884742120430546504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-9602570116792675142012-01-29T18:50:48.860-05:002012-01-29T18:50:48.860-05:00It isn't just the book world dealing with this...It isn't just the book world dealing with this. A new post by Pat Mitchell on Huffington Post talks about women filmmakers and the issues they deal with. A group of 50 + women in film got together to take a look at the "state of women in film and launch an initiative to shore up the pipeline that channels women's ideas, sensibilities, and good work onto the big screen." <br />What did they discuss, "why there is a disappointing underrepresentation of women across all sectors of media, particularly in clout positions."<br />Sound familiar?Kitty Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06229912028778236291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-64959393048000449412012-01-28T16:45:58.203-05:002012-01-28T16:45:58.203-05:00Seems female illustrators have the same struggles ...Seems female illustrators have the same struggles as women practicing other forms of art. If you haven't seen it already, you may find this movie interesting, "Who Does She Think She Is?" Here is the movie trailer: http://www.whodoesshethinksheis.net/<br /><br />This would not necessarily apply to lack of awards, but its an interesting article about bright women and success in general that I thought was interesting: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-science-success/201101/the-trouble-bright-girlscathyjunehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14984184035845895283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-73071655219153048522012-01-28T02:26:24.784-05:002012-01-28T02:26:24.784-05:00(actually, the Steads are siblings)(actually, the Steads are siblings)Ruth McNally Barshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10308176951931302853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-31361360735982120762012-01-28T02:24:08.988-05:002012-01-28T02:24:08.988-05:00Hmmm. Is it risky to comment?
One famous and comp...Hmmm. Is it risky to comment? <br />One famous and competent, qualified, distinctive female illustrator who spoke at our regional SCBWI conference joked that changing her name to David might finally bring her the Caldecott. <br />Like Cynthia, I have noticed a higher level of confidence (earned or not) among my male colleagues than among my female colleagues. I don't want to bring the men down, but I'd sure like to elevate more of the deserving women.<br />Anyway, I bet it changes with the next generation. (worth researching, and I haven't: Are there more female Caldecott winners in the past 30 years than in the previous 30? Are there more female Newbery winners in the past 30 years than in the previous 30?)Ruth McNally Barshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10308176951931302853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-53244304707498056312012-01-27T23:45:25.148-05:002012-01-27T23:45:25.148-05:00Fascinating (and perplexing!) observations, Carol....Fascinating (and perplexing!) observations, Carol. Kind of interesting that Caldecott was a man and Greenway a woman, given the outcomes of those awards in their perspective countries... :)<br /><br />I have to admit, I've had mixed feelings about the whole Caldecott Medal tradition for quite some time. Quickly: It's so hard to "judge" art (of any kind), but I think it's important to honor artists and their work. The Caldecotts leave so many good books and illustrators out. The fact that the committee that votes on the books is only made up of only 15 people is astonishing to me. What confuses me the most is that (as you mention in your closing points) children have no representation.<br /><br />The criteria for choosing the winning books is very interesting. In choosing the winners, the judges don't just look at the art, but rather at how well the artist interpreted the story - which is why many of the winning books were authored and illustrated by the same person, I think. <br /><br />My own favorite childoon BOOKS/stories on the list were more often illustrated (and written) by men then women (R.McCloskey, L.Bemelmens, L.Lionni, M.Sendak, Galdone, V.L.Burton); but if I consider the art alone, my favorite ILLUSTRATORS are mostly women (V.L.Burton, B.Cooney, T.Tudor, M.Brown, J.Pinkney). Go figure.<br /><br />My favorite recent Caldecott book, A Sick Day for Amos McGee, was illustrated by a woman, but authored by a man (her husband). Literally the perfect marriage between illustrations and text. Hurray for Erin and Philip Stead! :)WendyLady@GoodBookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07884742120430546504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-65816967139720012162012-01-27T13:19:37.072-05:002012-01-27T13:19:37.072-05:00Hi Julie and Dave,
I'm amazed I never noticed ...Hi Julie and Dave,<br />I'm amazed I never noticed before. What's interesting to me is that the Newbery (for best writing) has the gender gap I'd expect given the proportions of women in the field (many more female winners than male).<br /><br />Another interesting pattern in the data is the number of repeat winners - you can see that info on Elizabeth Bluemle's blog.Carol Baicker-McKeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07190497340312463771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-42236823473757225022012-01-27T11:11:38.394-05:002012-01-27T11:11:38.394-05:00I never noticed the discrepancies in the awards, b...I never noticed the discrepancies in the awards, but when attending any writer’s conference it's quite obvious I am in the minority. This post surely has me wondering. <br /><br />I agree with Cynthia. Approach a major publisher with this.Dave Amaditzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07200630754359919693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-19464132877461836652012-01-27T09:53:59.658-05:002012-01-27T09:53:59.658-05:00This is an EXCELLENT article, and I agree with Cyn...This is an EXCELLENT article, and I agree with Cynthia that you should pitch the major periodicals with this topic. You've made it clear that there are no easy answers to this question, and I like the fact that you make no assumptions. Hypotheses yes, but it's really about the fact - women receive far fewer Caldecotts than men.<br /><br />I'll be thinking about this for some time.Julie Hedlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04477115458570906449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-42478286635854337182012-01-27T07:46:20.687-05:002012-01-27T07:46:20.687-05:00What perceptive ideas, Cynthia. The analogy to the...What perceptive ideas, Cynthia. The analogy to the math/science abilities is apt (I remember that article too). And I think I will boldly approach a couple big media outlets. Today. Thanks for the confidence in me!Carol Baicker-McKeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07190497340312463771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-959640940345421698.post-54167116448909824122012-01-26T23:36:39.702-05:002012-01-26T23:36:39.702-05:00Carol that's perfect...
The Glass Slipper Cei...Carol that's perfect...<br /><br />The Glass Slipper Ceiling.<br /><br />I think it's a combination of things. I recall a lecture at a conference by David Brooks that was about studies between men and women in abilities like math, verbal, etc (and I'll apologize ahead of time if I'm remembering the facts incorrectly). The only significant difference was that men are more self-confident than their abilities actually show, and women are less self-confident. <br /><br />So this could play into men being more assertive in promoting themselves - whether it's at a conference, approaching editors, online, etc. I'm pretty sure this is a factor in men's greater success in contemporary art, where succes is in part dependent on how you present yourself and convincing people that what you're doing is great stuff and they should spend more money than God to buy it.<br /><br />As we all know, this is a very tough business with many rejections even for successful writers and artists. I suspect that people who can push through that are ultimately more successful. And if you have a lot of self-confidence it's easier to push through the rejection.<br /><br />As to whether self-confidence can also affect the style of art - is the art by men more adventurous, or even cutting edge? I don't know, but if it were, it would have a leg up on getting medals, which would favor that.<br /><br />Carol, I think you should boldly and with full self-confidence approach a well-known newspaper or magazine with the title for an article, "The Glass Slipper Ceiling" which would either be written by you, or at least feature you and your wonderful, beautiful art. Might I suggest the Wall Street Journal? Or the New York Times?Cynthia Light Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04420194825385502169noreply@blogger.com